Thursday, July 30, 2009

A stallion with a problem?

Utah, our 5 year old, bay, Quarter Horse, is going crazy, i believe. He charges other stallions and every horse in the field comes back with bleeding bites and so does he. We though, maybe he doesn't like how small the pasture is. (10 acres), so we put him in the 20 acre pasture and he still gets bites on him, and charges, and all the other horse, still, are getting bites on them. But now he is charging us and now he is kicking the fence with his hind legs. What is going on? Please help!!!!! Thank You.
Answers:
it sounds like the sound of the wip might be making him feel insecure because of his past. hearing it is probably going to feel that he has to defend himself before it is used on him again.
At five years old he is entering his peak years as a stallion. Stallions will fight with other stallions to determine who will lead and ultimately who will breed. By putting him in a larger pasture you are decreasing the amount of human contact and allowing him to act more naturally. Nature wants him to fight for dominance.
Put him in a smaller pasture with geldings or weaker stallions only, or get him gelded.
Best of Luck!
you can't keep a stallion with other males wehter they are stallions or not. they see them as invading males and will attack them burtally trying to drive them away. keep him in a different pasture than other male horses, even geldings, and he should be fine. he shouldn't have a problem with females but stallions will fight eachother to the death to get at a mare in heat. keeping him away from mares in heat is also a good plan.
Welcome to whats called bratty stallion syndrome!!
He needs alot of groundwork and a job. Also, some stallions just aren't cut out to be stallions and can't handle the testosterone.
Personally I wouldn't have a stud like this and if he was mine, he would of been gelded. However if you insist on keeping him a stud, get him with a trainer and get him doing something with preformance or cattle. I would pull him out of the mares for now.
Is he running with other studs, or charging over fences?? I would electrify the wire between the studs so and also have a 5 foot seperation between stud pens for safety factors.
^ I read your additional details. Please don't make excuses for him. Bad behaviour is bad behaviour. Whipped or not, that is not excuse for a stallion to act as he is doing without reprimand. That is also no reason for a horse to turn its butt to you.
His hormones are kicking in.
Right now (like this very second) you need to seperate him from other horses, it is unsafe to keep him in with them.
Next, you should decide what your priorities are with this horse. Unless you are using him for breeding, geld him. It is dangerous and he could get hurt if you keep him a stallion.
If you cannot let the vet geld him then you need to talk to the vet about a safe way to keep him under control.
Good Luck!
i would get him gelded
they turn out to be much more "controlled" and less aggressive horses
also this can help with health issues
well this sounds serious. ive delt with stallions before.stallions are very dominant creatures.he is trying to be your boss.you need to get a stud halter on him and a small wip and correct his bad behavior. work him in the round pen or on a lunge line.he could get dangerous.keep him in a stud pen away from other horses until beeding time.
brittney
Everyone is right! You need to separate him! That is part of responsible stud care. Some studs as they age become agressive and overly dominant and if he is becoming this much of a danger, you need to give him something to do daily. Keep it interesting too... alternate his daily activities and when it comes to his behavior around humans, TRY SOME DISCIPLINE! Walk him and handle him daily, and have NO mercy and NO tolerance and catch him BEFORE he has aggressive behavior towards you. If nothing helps, it's true to say some horses just can't be stallions, but gelding him sometimes doesn't stop behavior problems if they have already started breeding. Good Luck and separate and handle him!
Definitely time to geld this horse. Even if you have plans to breed him, his temperament makes him unsuitable for that. We gelded a 10 yo stallion that was difficult to handle and it made a world of difference in his attitude. He's much happier as a gelding.
separate him from all the other horses. if stallions get aggressive enough they can fight to the death. put him in a smaller pasture and work with him. if you plan on keeping stallions as stallions they need to be the most broke horses ever. if you can't handle your stallion the way he is, get him cut. it's not worth losing other horses and getting yourself or someone else hurt.
Whatever you do, don't ignore this. You need to find a way to safely handle this. If you don't feel like you are experienced enough to handle this stud, then I would suggest you find a trainer to work with him, but if you do, then I would try fencing him off in his own little paddock. Let him have other horses around for company though and see if this calms him a little. If it doesn't, then watch him and punish him every time he does something overly agressive. Put him in a paddock with 2 other horses, and every time he does something to them find a way to make him uncomfortable if your close enough smack him with a whip. Again, be very careful and never get close to his rear end or back feet. When he charges you, you have to stand your ground and seem to him like your in charge, but if he doesn't show any signs of stopping or submissing then get your *** out of there. You have to find a way to prove to him that you are still in control. Please be careful about this. I have seen too many people get hurt.
Never put a stallion with other stallions or geldings! Put him in his own paddock near the barn so he is tamed.
U mustnt keep him with other males, esspally when mares are around, he will fight to be the domanate male of his herd.
He would be the smae in the wild. You can get away with that with some stallions but generally only when they have been brought up with other horses loose. As for the fence kicking, maybe the cracking of the whip is bringing back some bad memories and he feels like he has to escape and get out before he gets hurt again.
If its possible, what I would do, is stick him out with the mares you want to breed from with him, in there own pasture, away from other males so there is no competion and stress around. And if possible get him away from that cracking whip (or just crack it round the trainers head! lol joking!)
Best of luck to you! Hope it all works out for you!
Do yourself the world's biggest favour and have him gelded, he won't stop before then. Stallions can be very dangerous.
-He is going through a "stallion phase" at 5 years old he is pretty much like a 18-20 year old guy-his hormone are RAGING. Our stallion cannot be near any other male (geldings included) it is part of a stallions nature to defend his "territory" against other males. If you are unwilling to geld him (which this behaviour will continue for the next year or so if you do, personal experience with a 6 year old that we gelded) and you don't need him breeding right now, talk to your vet and get him a Progesterone shot. We did that to this stallion that arrived from Germany at a barn that we worked at an it made a WORLD of difference. He was still stallion-ey, but completely relaxed, non aggressive, and he quit trying to tear the barn down :-) I think it lasts somewhere from 4-6 months. Allot of people with show stallions use it while they are competing and pull the stud off of it when it is time for breeding. you can also get an oral supplement that you feed everyday, but it is pretty expensive.
I would geld him, unless you have a very GOOD trainer!! Studs can be very BAD!! Someone can %26 will get hurt the way things are going! He needs to be taught ground maners %26 how to act with people!!

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