Thursday, July 30, 2009

3 yr old colt?

I have a 3 yr old QH colt that is in his breaking prosess, hes 15.0hh tall and he is going to be a hunter jumper but my farrer says that he will not take me far in the show ring and that I should get a taller horse. He says that i can't jump him like 4 -5 ft, (which I don't want to I only want to jump him like 3 - 3'6 ft) Ill never get rid of him, EVER! How high can a normal 3 yr old colt jump?
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If he loves jumping and isn't afraid of the jump he can jump as high as his height (nearly).
When you watch him jumping...does he 'just jump' like most horses do...or does he 'attack' it...if he does attack it, then you have a very special horse. All horses are special but you would have one that could do soooo much. I know this famous horse called 'Headly Brittania' She is 15.2 and has won Badminton this year!! (Incase you are not sure what that is, it is one of the biggest comps out there!)
How a 3yr old jumps is how you bond with it, if you trust him and he trusts you then he won't be afraid of jumping big!
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well 3 year old colts could possibl jump 3-4 ft, and they can jump higher and higher as they grow up, it depends to if your train him he could probablyjump 4-5 feet
super colt once jumped over the empire state building. but his son, super colt jr, was a huge dissapointment and could only jump over small rocks.
At only 3 years old your colt is still growing. He may just get to be 15.2 or so. It's not a good idea to push horses younger than 5 because their bodies aren't completely hardened until they're 5. Until then stick with ground polls, cavalettis and go no higher than 2 feet. It takes a horse a SIMILAR amount of effort to jump 3 feet or 6. It's the oxers that get them.
So don't worry about what your farrier said, take your taining slow to allow the horse to mature and THEN make up your mind what he's capable of. Two years of training will do WONDERS for BOTH of you.
That sounds about right. Don't push it it is too young and will develop more and strength will grow too.
Do not jump a 3 yr old, school him over cavalettis first and move him up safely.
On a side note, there was a show jumper named Itzyweeny (anyone remember this horse)?
He/she was like 15 hands and just bounded over those jumps, immaculate talent and skill. I do believer this is a rarity, but as far as hunter jumper, you horse would be fine, but give him time to mature.
Marion Mould rode the famous showjumper Stroller in the 1968 Olympics and he was 14.2hh. He won the team gold and individual silver for Britain as well as winning the Hickstead Derby. He was 20 when he won the Hamburg Derby and won a total of 61 international competitions. Size isn't everything but ability and talent are.
Depends on the breed, the build and the talent. I will say this though, a 15 hand QH does sound a little on the small side, and maybe what your farrier is trying to tell you is that for his "confirmation", he's not going to be able to take you very far in the show ring. When it comes to a good jumper, there isn't that big of a difference between 3'6 and 4 foot, if the horse has talent and the right build, he'll be able to do it. Have you tried to "free jump" your horse to see how high he can go? Does your trainer think he has the potential for show in that discipline?
You should not jump your horse until he is four years old. That is because his joints are "open" and immature until about age 4, so he will be much, much more prone to permanent joint damage if worked too hard before then. Jumping is stressful on all his joints, especially his front legs, so you do not want to work him over jumps this year.
That does not mean that you can't work your horse over groundpoles and small cavilleti, and ride him regularily. Your horse will need to be well broke on the flat before you can consider jumping, anyhow.
And I agree with the others that a 15hh horse should be able to jump an adequate height. It isn't the height of the horse that's the big requirement. The way the horse is built is the most important part of how high he will be able to jump. A horse needs a certain slope of his shoulder, and a certain length of his shoulder bone to be able to lift his front feet/shoulders properly to jump. He also needs certain development and muscling to his hindquarters, well built legs and other specific conformation to be a good jumper. Many AQHA horses can jump several feet, but they are often not bred to be an ideal jumper and it is very unlikely that he will jump 4ft. In fact, 3 feet is often the cut-off height for many horses, after that many are unable to continue. But this is not because of their height, but because of typical AQHA conformation, and believe me - some AQHA horses compete at a high level if they are built properly.
Also, a horse's attitude and work ethics are essential in a good jumper. A horse that is willing, long strided, un-afraid of the jumps and interested in the activity will do much better than a well-built but poorly trainer or spooky horse.
Good luck on working with your young horse, and good luck on being patient as you wait for him to finish maturing!
what the 'paint girl' said is true. until they reach four yeas or more jumping can royal screw their joints up. the things o work on rigth now are: endurance, ground work, lunging, paces, and foot placement. teaching him these things are a must before you try him over jumps. quarter horses make up for short legs with muscle. even the shorter quarter horses can get over 4 ft jumps. a horse i work with is just barely 15hh and he flys over jumps. he doesn't have long legs or anything but he can get over the five foot jumps if he's well rested. and he takes the 3 to 4 jumps like it's all old news to him.
A 3 year old should not be jumping at all. You should wait until your horse is at least 4 years old to start jumping. At 15hh your horse most likely will not take you far in jumping. For hunter/jumpers they like the bigger horses, and realistically a 15hh quarter horse's stride can not compete with a 17hh warmblood's stride. Your horse may be able to jump up to 3'6 with no problem, but there is alot more to doing well in jumping competitions other then how high your horse can jump, your horse will need to have a long stride and some natural ability over fences.
Even at AQHA shows the hunter under saddle, and over fences horses are well over 16hh. I was showing on a 16.2 horse for a couple seasons, and was consistantly on the smallest horse in my division... Most quarter horse hunters have a ton of TB bred into them.
Honestly, if I were you I wouldn't get my hopes up too much about hunter/jumpers with your horse, purely because of his height. Your horse could be able to do jumping at open shows, 4H and some schooling shows, but it almost certainly will never be an A circuit hunter, or an AQHA jumper.
You should really focus on getting your horse trained under saddle on the flat, and once he is completly trained THEN is the time to be thinking about jumping. There are tons of things your horse will be able to do, dont limit your self to just thinking your horse will be a jumper.
If you aren't planning on jumping anything much over 3'6, don't sweat it. Your horse will probably end up around 15.2 and that's plenty of height for what you'll be asking of him. The only thing you should really concern yourself with is whether the horse is pleasant to ride, which it seems like he is, since you don't want to get rid of him. If he's a willing and honest jumper, you won't have problems. A bigger horse will find it easier to clear large jumps, but a little horse with heart makes a much better jumper than a big one who hates what he's doing.
At three years though, he shouldn't be jumping big stuff anyway, just doing little dinky things now and then (if that) to learn what it's all about.
if i were u i would start over smaller jumps until he was 4 or 5 when his bones are more mature, then start working up to the no higher then a 4 ft jump
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A colt that is only 3 years old is still growing and should not be pushed into jumping, as his bones have not fully matured. He should not be pushed to accept a rider at this time, either. What you should do first before he gets any older is to get the colt GELDED, and he will be a better horse. You don't need to be dealing with a stallion.
well your farrier sounds like an egg head. a 3-year-old colt isnt to be judged at such a young age. They are still babies and growing. They dont have their full mental capacity or physical capacity to jump adequately yet. when he is more like a 5-year-old then you will be able to tell what he will achieve. take him slow and dont get him burned out on this. just ride and teach and ride some more. Take it easy on his legs and mind.

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