We are looking for training for my 3 year old quarter horse gelding. I talked to the owner of Rafter6quarterhorses and said they would train him for $450. This includes:
45 days traning
board, feed, etc.
However, I'm questioning how much training they will get done. This horse of mine is VERY energetic. He's like a big puppy dog. I'm not sure how much they would get done with him in 45 days.
Should I maybe see if they would come out and look at him first? So that they could get to know him a little, just to see that they're dealing with and then MAYBE they would have an idea on how much they would get done in 45 days?
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Being a trainer myself I would say that $450 for 45 days of training is a good deal if the trainer knows what they are doing. 45 days is actually a good bit of training...But that much time can make or break your horse. A trainer can do alot of good in 45 days or they can do alot of damage in 45 days...my advice to you is to ask around %26 talk to people who have personally had their horse in training there. Find out if they were satisfied %26 would reccommend you taking your horse there. I am always happy to give potential clients references that they can talk to before bringing a horse to me..I feel any reputable trainer should be willing to do the same. If you get good references %26 decide to take your horse there...be a responsible owner %26 keep an eye on things..if at any time you don't like whats going on, you absolutely have the right to remove your horse. Good luck!
yes very good
That sounds actually a little low. Are you sure they're reputable?
Unless you can afford it.. i think that's a lot...
thats a half a grand! i wouldn't spend that much.. but it all depends on you..
Thats like 10 dollars a day!! wow.. i would have them come out and take a look at your horse(not only for them to meet your horse, but for you to be able to trust them!!) good luck!
YES. They need to see the personality of the horse before they make any guarantees. Also, make sure you ask about their methods of training. See if they can give you any references for other clients they have. Ask detailed questions. This is important that it is done well.
I think this is a good deal. It use to be 30 days training for that price. Horse trainers know what their doing even if it is with a young horse. They know the tricks of the trade to turn that energy into a learning experience. This is the right time to start to train. A young happy horse is more willing to learn and want to please with what he has learned. Just make sure you get this all in writing and a signed contract to protect your interest.
I would say that pretty good considering that includes board and feed as well. Take that into consideration. The $450 is not just for training. But, before you ship your horse off, make sure to ask HOW MUCH training he will get. 1 hour/day for 5 days a week etc. Its always good to have them come evaluate the horse first to see if 45 days is even enough.
I don't know where you live, but here in CA it would cost at least 3 times that. A month and a half is not much time either. I think you're right they should see your horse first and you should see how they train before turning your horse over to them. Hope it all works out for you, the right training is so important. All the best;^)
Depends on what your training him for It takes a lot longer than 45 days to train a good horse their just going to break him to ride and that's about all your going to get for your money...
To me 45 days is the cowboy verision of breaking . Depending on how much training you agreed to i guess it's ok but 45 days means you'll be able to ride him saddle and bridle him it takes longer to really break a horse right. Just be careful .
yes!
good luck!
That's the rate I pay my trainer (TWH), $300 for 30 days, $600 for 60 and I provide feed and hay.
During this time my horse is ridden and worked daily. I am welcome to call for progress reports and to come down for a "spin" either on one of hers to watch mine or to ride my own.
That sounds like a good price, I would however if you have not checked it out before, go and look at the place, meet the trainer in person, and have them give you a walk through. You can do a lot with a horse in 45 days or even 30 days. You would be amazed at what you can accomplish as long as you are an experienced trainer and use consistency in your training techniques. I have trained some very energetic thoroughbreds and you would be surprised what you can do in 30 days however once the ground work has been laid it must be followed up upon. Also 45 days is not necessarily "breaking the cowboy way", I use natural horsemanship and again I stress, it is all about the consistancy.
Most trainers will not come to your place and look, but will evaluate your horse for you at their place at no charge. Mostly what you will get in 45 days is the basic foundation work. Walk, trot, lope, stop, back up, and a beginning neck reining. I cannot comment on whether this trainer is good or bad, since i have never met them, and know nothing about them. But, sometimes you need to look at more than just pricing. How many horses do they have in training right now? If the answer is over 10, and there is only one person riding the horses, your horse may not get ridden as much as you would like them to. Do they promise you the "moon"? .That your horse will be finished in 45 days and you will be able to do anything you want with him from then on? Without ever seeing him? No trainer should ever make this kind of promise. Few horses can go from start to finish in 45 days. Can you drop by anytime and see your horse? A lot of trainers want to know when you are coming, so that they can be sure to be riding your horse when you get there. Have you just dropped by unannouced and seen what goes on? That is a great way to get a true look at a trainer. I have seen trainers change methods when no customers are present. Are you comfortable with them? Can you come out and take lessons on your own horse? Or are they trying to sell you something that they have in the barn? Is there a training contract that spells out specificly who is responsible for what. That way there is no "sticker shock" when you get the bill. These are just a few things to think about when picking a trainer for your horse. Good Luck!
This is a very reasonable rate, assuming your trainer is a good one.
In 45 days they should be able to get him saddle-broken and "get his bucks out", so to speak. They'll probably get his basic gaits down, too.
3 Y.O is a little bit young to start any heavy riding but there is no reason they can't get him saddle-broke and have someone sit on him to walk around. That won't be too hard on his skeletal system.
I agree with bmybabytoday, Hayley R, and paint pony has some very helpful advise you NEED to take.
Being that they already said most of what I was thinking, I would also like to add...Will they teach you how to handle your horse when they are done (or during)? Being that every trainer has different techniques, and riding ques, etc. It is important that you are taught what he was taught. In 45 days he should have his basics (as mentioned), but it will be up to you to enforce them while you are finishing him up for what ever sport you choose.
I do hope that you are not expecting a completely dead broke 3 year old when he comes back from his 45 day teaching session, because that is not what you will get. He is still only 3 and going to still be very energetic (some never grow out of it), and continue to test his boundaries for possibly even a few more years - just wanted to make sure that you were aware.
So good luck! You got some great suggestions here that you need to keep in mind!
first see how the first day goes
That is really cheap. That is only ten dollars a day, and if it includes room and board that leaves very little for the training. The trainer may be a saint and not mind working for really cheap, but my experience is that you usually get what you pay for. I would go out and watch him work with one of the other horses he is training or see how one of the horses he trained behaves. References are misleading because no one is going to give you a bad reference. You need to go out and see this trainer train, or see the results he has gotten from other horses.
In my area, a trainer will charge twice that if it is including board and feed. Usually a little more. To be honest, most of the good trainers I know will not set a price until they see your horse - and you - and work with the horse once free of charge.
Best of Luck!
Hi, i'm from Platte City, Missouri, and we have some extremely talented people that train, buy, and sell show quarter horses. I also know a man in Sasabe, Arizona that is known for training phenominal horses. Assuming you train western and want to show your puppy dog, look in to these people in Platte City Missouri. As you probably know, there is a HUGE difference between getting a horse broke, or training a horse. The Platte City people are amazing, and currently have the most amazing 3 year old quarter horse, which has been shown, and wins. (she's on the internet site i'll give you, her name is Sophie) They're also wonderful if you want to buy another horse. We bought my first horse from them and began training (me too! I'd never shown before) and within 6 weeks, we placed in all our events at the American Royal (HUGE midwest show). The next year we got highpoint. If you want a horse broke, let me know, and i'll get the guy in Arizona's number. The website for the Platte City people is www.minerranch.com. If you're willing to make the drive to missouri, its worth it! Look them up and see what they have to offer!
Info about the show trainers:
They're a couple (Amy and Jeff). Amy has been world champion, and Jeff is known throughout the midwest for awesome show horses. (NO JOKE!) Every 6 weeks a man from conniticut drives out and buys around 8 horses, takes them out to the east coast and sells them.
That would be a good idea- to let them come out. Warn them that they should put some more training on him. That is a good price, but go and see what it looks like out there. Maybe it's not nearly as nice as made out to be. You want to bring them to see him so you can see:
1.) Do they treat horses nicely?
2.) Do they know what they are doing?
3.) Do they see horses as creatures, not property?
4.) Are they lying about there great facility?
5.) Would they train all 45 days or just when they get around to it?
Good luck!
if this really includs feed then $450 is a very good deal. a friend of mine paid $350 for 30 days so if you are comfortable then go ahead. it is a average price for traning. Good Luck
That is an amazing deal! Board at my barn costs more than that for a month and training costs almost double that. As long as you trust them, I would give it a go. I would probably let them come take a look to give them an idea. I would at least suggest it to see if they want to.
i just had a 2yr old broke in 30 days backs out the trailer when just sayng (back up ) ride her , shoe her ect. payed $300 or $10 a day. they have to ride every day and train after that u have to take over.
That seems like a good price to me. Here in South Dakota when I was looking into getting a horse I had trained, the going price was $600 for 30 days. So to me $450 for 45 days seems like a deal. Don't forget to get references from other people who have used this trainer and ask how many other horses they will be working in this 45 day period. My horse is extremely energetic and 30 days did fine for him. Best of luck to you =)
that is a very good price. you could send him there for 45 days and if you want more training on him after that you could keep him there for another 45 days.
deffinatly get the trainer to come out and see the horse he/she may have more then they think!
$450 is a really good price if they are going to get the horse under saddle, very reasonable. As with everything, prices very around the country but ths is not high.
Just make sure that your training agreement covers what is expected of the horse, in writing and signed by both parties, in that 45 days training. This way, you know what to expect back and the trainer knows what you are expecting to get. A lot can be done in 45 days! But, find out what their "days" consist of, 10 minutes a day or 2 hours a day?
THATS A REALLY GOOD PRICE, HEAR IN CALIFORNIA WHERE I OWN A TRAINING FACILITY WE NORMALY CHARGE ANYWHERE FROM 400-600 FOR THE FIRST 30 DAYS BUT RECOMEND AT LEAST 60-90 DAYS DEPENDING ON THE HORSH THEN LESSONS WITH THE HORSE AND OWNER.
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